In the spirit of UNDERSTANDING perspectives lies the TRUE art of LIVING…. Just thought that one of the most memorable conversations on FB needed to be saved for future reference…. there will be perspectives which will change… the verdict will change and OUR point of OBSERVATION will change…
Change is the brilliant GIFT of Creation and Every Creation is a brilliant Gift of CHANGE!!!
There will be MORE REASONS to remember this discussion… don’t ever want the debate to die down!! And the discussion began with an update on facebook…
Deepanjali Rao WOW!! After listening to the VERDICT... it is OBVIOUS that they have JUSTIFIED the DEMOLITION of the BABRI MASJID as being RIGHT by RELIGIOUS SENTIMENT and APPROVED by LAW.
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Kavita Puri Chawla, Priyesh Sanghvi and Radhika Arora like this.
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Radhika Arora absolutely!
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Yash Chawla Democracy is ruining us..
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Deepanjali Rao I am also wondering... what these same people would be saying had the verdict gone the Babri Masjid way!!! The media is being politically correct.... and screwing with the constitutional rights of secular country.
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Geetanjali Bhagra- Sharma Religion + politics + law= completely screwed up!
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Deepanjali Rao I guess all other religions will have to get ASI to start assessing the historical relevance of their properties, before they are demolished to another ASTOUNDING piece of HISTORY!!!
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Yash Chawla I agree.. They are just opening up the gaps which are in our constitution!!
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Deepanjali Rao It's super cool... maybe this is the KHUFIA plan to OPEN the FLOODGATES of DEMOLITION DRIVES :) Wondering which is the next target after the BABRI MASJID????
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Soyna Katoch i am amazed at the glum faces of these idiots....i agree wid u Deep...two faced nitwits..i feel there will be countless such mughal structures which will come in question if here foundations are inspected ..are they ready to go down that lane...secular my $%@
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Deepanjali Rao I am just wondering... what the foundation of the GOLDEN TEMPLE could have ;) or Cathedral !!! one chappal or joota is all they'll need to begin the demolition process....
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Soyna Katoch hahaha..trivia...foundation stone of golden temple was laid by a muslim saint Mia Mir on request by Guru sahib the fifth guru ....though it was a waste land...a swamp
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Geetanjali Bhagra- Sharma Wow! Soyna, gud one....dint know that!!
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Deepanjali Rao :-) even I didn't know this! Btw... The BJP says that this is a great initiative for National Integration ;-)
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Geetanjali Bhagra- Sharma LOL!!!! Bastards! sure...can I swear on ur wall by the way?
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Deepanjali Rao ofcourse you can! :-) :-) :-)
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Deepanjali Rao the land that was gifted to the Catholic church in Delhi includes the whole of Chankyapuri and Gol Dak Khana... Which the church gave the Indian Government since the city was being developed... And the church did not have enough funds at the time. Should the Catholics therefore begin demolishing? By the time the verdict comes though most of the post independence infrastructure would've collapsed anyway ;-)
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Geetanjali Bhagra- Sharma LOL!!!! awesome food for thought!
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Deepanjali Rao another funny fact: watching Times Now and NDTV! "They BELIEVE that the place the Hindu's claim to be the birth place of Shree Ram is so" isn't it funny that after all that they've deliberated they still can't confidently say that they KNOW this! Twits!
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Deepanjali Rao Just heard Advani speak... He is already talking about building a grand temple in Ayodhya...and the fact this verdict has paved the way for it... Awesome... I guess he has a disease! Away with him away with him... Crucify him ;-)
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Geetanjali Bhagra- Sharma LOL! ya lets crucify him! that would be blasphemous for his Hindu righteousness! ;)
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Soyna Katoch Of wid his head...probably kalmadi shd be given the duty of gettin this temple built ;) ..that ought to please the muslims
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Geetanjali Bhagra- Sharma hahahahaha! now that is a justice!
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas To come to think of it, we, this generation has no say in what happened in the past, but its definitely worth getting into providing justice to the belief of many. Babar, the ruler, had demolished many temples in his life time to build mosques, as his showcase of power over local groups and hindus, because of which, both the religions are facing the brunt even till today. What was originally something, it has all the rights to be that originally something, now.
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas but in the end, belief = ego and pride... We all have one, and we all should respect others' too. One might be stronger in displaying it than others, but isnt that what survival of the fittest all about? Fittest can be power of tongue or might, or even justice or proving what is right and whats not. Blind faith is evil, as evil as murdering an innocent sheep in the name of lord.
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Deepanjali Rao Agree Completely!!! The funny part is that WE, this generation NEED to STAND up NOW... What we're not seeing is the BENCHMARK this WILL CREATE in the FUTURE handling of SIMILAR cases! If this is the LEGACY we're handed in the name of VERDICT... How then do we CONVINCE our future GENERATIONS? Do we tell them that a bunch of SENIOR citizens... decided to PLAY it safe! Its time the BIGGER PICTURE becomes the basis of decisions taken... this is a QUICK FIX... !!!
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Deepanjali Rao talking of Kalmadi... I heard some wonderful DELHIZENS gave him a TALKING to at a Mall in Gurgaon... Does anyone know more????
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Trina Shekar Narayanan Dee.. one needs to get the facts clear before blaming... and have respect n faith in the judiciary system either ways. The verdict is a slap on the face of pseudo secularism.
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true but, I really respect the whole Ayodhya's history, which is passed and written in multiple books over thousands of years. I dont know if youre on the same page! :S There was more to that period/era, than we know. I have a personal, con...nection with this history, so Im kinda pissed with what babar and other mughals have done to this country. All the prominent mughal architecutre that we see today, are built on demolished ancient hindu heritage spots. Sites, which were even more than 5000+ years old. I hate the guts of such religious leaders. I wish we dont see such a trend coming in the future. Though, I would love to know, what was there at Taj Mahal, before shahjahan got it built by hindu labour! And poor India, always been attacked, by this or that, always been conquerd by mulsim or christians or chinese and have always been defending. Last time, when india went to war and was the war was started by India, was... you cant ever put a date, because it never happened!!See More
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Deepanjali Rao Trina... Due respect to the judiciary system... from the philosophical point of view. But the impact isn't going to be very pretty on the future... In the NOW of things... They've played BIG DADDY... Justice isn't about being PERFECT it is about being a VISIONARY... and that MUST be taken into consideration! Anyway... the dictate seems to be go with the FLOW... We should go with the KNOW!!
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Deepanjali Rao @Bhuvi: the question is DO we want to continue to DIG up?? If we do... are we prepared for a million other similar situations? Are we geared up enough to handle a MICRO investigation into HISTORY? Don't you feel that we're headed for a MAJOR historical RECONSCTRUCTION if we begin to base our ACTIONS on RELIGIOUS sentiment ALONE??? The educated have ALLOWED religion to be their WEAPON... Will this UNKNoWINGLY create a DISTURBING TREND??? It is that which is WORRISOME!!
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Soyna Katoch @Bhuvanesh.... yes sir lets dig up evrything..that ought to solve the problem....we'll all at last hav sumthing worthwhile to do.......we hav to set the history right...
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@Dee: Thats the thing, questions always have the answers, you can see them in yours. @ Soyna: It is very much important to fix history. Did you know recently, they discovered King Tut wasnt african and Alexander was not Greek! Fixing histo...ry means, fixing a lot of conflicts, coz most of the conflicts happen coz of past, and non coz of present or future.
What future holds for us, we cant envision, but yes, we can calculate and be humble. Go read about Mecca, and the cornerstone of it. In the end, everything is same, just the intentions of muslim conquerers have always been about, destroy the existing to prove the power and show them how we can insult their pride by rebuilding on their own. How many Shiva temples were destroyed in our history. Shiva is not Hindu, its vedic by the way, a religion or should i say way of life, which has been existing way before book religions came into this world. Shiva, is simply the black eternal stone. Anyway, Im a strong believer of fixing past, without that, you cannot have a future. We need a foundation, without that, not even your body can stand, even that needs two feet.See More12 hours ago · LikeUnlike
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas oh and, @Soyna: Do you know the history of your last name? Its intresting, read it, I have some cousins with the same last name. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katoch
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I believe ppl hv been widely mistaken abt the whole issue. Its as simple as A had a house.. B breaks n builds a new house, which is encroachment. A wants his rights.. to get his house back so both go to the court.. the court based on facts ...gives A the rights back to build a new house thr.. thts it. Just coz it is abt a community we make it communal.
Now for this I dont see why C needs to feel insecure unless thr is any violation. Now B cannot argue that his fundamental rights r taken away.
The only possible trend set by the judiciary in our country is that JUSTICE prevails... and truth cannot be denied.See More4 hours ago · LikeUnlike
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To each their own... RESPECT begins with KNOWING!! The perspective will always be different and I guess that is why it is fun discussing such a SUBJECT! A clear INDICATION that we as a NATION need to CONSOLIDATE what we HAVE to BUILD THE FU...TURE!!!
And for as long as we ALLOW history and CONSTRUCTED facts to SWAY US... We will CONTINUE... in the same direction!! We need to DRAW a GREATER AWARENESS to WHAT WE WANT for US!!!
Thank you to all the wonderful people on this thread... MAY THIS DEBATE NOT REST IN PEACE... May it bring us more such wonderful moments of COMMUNICATION!!!See More4 hours ago · LikeUnlike
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@ Bhuvnesh....That the thing.... its all screwed up.....i am well aware of the history of my name thank u vry much...inspite of that i stand by wht i said earlier...BTW have u thought of joinin BJP...u'll find many lyk minded people there......... the so called facts abt king tut, alexander, taj mahal are not facts they are our interpretations of wht we hav found.. which are subject to change more often than not..in light of new evidences.....Wikipedia is not the truth..... its a site where we can post information that we feel lyk sharing...might be facts might be hearsay...or plain interpretation of facts as we see them...did u 'research' oder things also there..then brother u need a better source of informationSee More
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Soyna Katoch @Trina...every situation has three sides to it...yours..mine..and THE truth...
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Deepanjali Rao ;) I'm loving this!!! So totally!!!!!!! :))
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Well Soyna... har cheez ke sirf 'do' he pehlu hote hai(only two sides dear)... true or untrue. Now its upto oneself which side one is. You r most welcome with ur side and perception.
@Dee... like ur post.. 'may this debate not rest in peace'...... :-)See More3 hours ago · LikeUnlike
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Soyna Katoch truth is untangible..so cliches (do pehlu) does not apply to it..it is different for diff people..luk at sum grey trina..life is not just black and white..it might add sum colour to it..i wonder if ur belief in judicial system will remain the same if the court wud have given a diff decision...
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The TRUTH is ONLY AS REAL AS OUR PERSPECTIVE of a SITUATION!! We need to OBSERVE the TREND... It is most IMPORTANT TO BE INDIAN at this POINT... and HISTORY is ONLY THE PERSPECTIVE of the AUTHOR who wrote it... it is HIS/HER thoughts... The... TRUTH of OUR GENERATION is FAR FAR AWAY from THE TRUTH IT IS PROJECTED TO BE!!! Don't we all know that... and this is true for the ERAs gone by... and ERA's to COME!
History will always be NOTED as the EDUCATED version of what HAPPENS... the TRUTH will only come from THOSE who are LIVING it... and they are THE UNSUNG HERO's :))See More2 hours ago · LikeUnlike
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Soyna.. i wdnt juggle with words here.. the only point is what is fact and what is not... I am with the Judiciary for the underlying facts... which is available to the public. What is not available is none of my concern. If trow supreme cou...rt tells something else I will be open to accept that also.. based on new facts which come up.
I personaly am not with or for any side. For me idealy it wd be landmark decision to make adjucent Mosque n Temple whr all can go n pray.... let all know that humanity is above religion.... and that India is above religion and to show the world that yes.. we can co-exist with love, mutual respect and harmony.
Blaming n debating is very easy whr one can put down owr fellow countrymen... some political party.. or community... Looking at the brighter side is difficult.. needs openness of heart and mind.. and acceptance.
Seems some of you guys were expecting some different judgment ??See More56 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Soyna Katoch @trina..i absolutely agree wid u...by the way i am a hindu by religion.. ...i wasn't expecting or not expecting nething...i felt that 50-50 shd have been a better deal rather than 2/3rd and 1/3rd...for obvious reasons
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas Woah! When did all this become about religion! Im only a fan of fixing history! I guess, we all are too adamant to see everything from our own perspective... and thats the end for most of us! And lets none of us be shallow enough, that we know it all. Oh and @Soyna: Hinduism isnt a religion, its a way of life, just like budhism... Religions are: Islam and Christanity.
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas oh and @Soyna: http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-tuts-dna-is-western-european/ DNA is proof, what else would you need to believe in someones origin? Its far from interpretation, its a logical explanation. Now thats different, if you dont believe in DNA!
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas What ASI has used to find out the proof for existence of Original structure to bring a more balanced result in the case, to settle a war is called 'carbon dating', which is a scientific process of archeology. Lets all just shut up and be more educated or sshould I say, aware and updated about whats happening around us. Why are we all so judgmental, such a pitty!
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas Wiki: Can be edited, but go ahead try it, and Wiki will fix it back within 24 hrs. There are books, from which wiki has updated all that! How kiddish to even bring that into discussion here... Its super fanny, that we question others' research platform, rather being concerned how much we ourselves know... Sad too.
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas Oh and last one, Im out! I hate having discussions with walls!
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Deepanjali Rao I LOVE ALL OF YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!
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Bhuvanesh Singh Manhas sorry, forgot to mention, Where did love for BJP come from? That was completely overboard and weird! I hate religious politicians, why would I find like minded people amongst them... Maybe you should, coz they are judgmental and laid back and pretty easy to mould! And Dee, stop loving it, remember the saying, everything takes a full circle and finds whose responsible and gives a big one, return!?
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Deepanjali Rao I love all of YOU... The rest are but OUR PERSPECTIVES and PERCEPTIONS!!! We all have AGREED to DISAGREE and that is a HEALTHY sign!!!
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